Sens Rumours, Rumbles & Rambles
“Carkner to Vancouver is in the chatter right now, with Raymond going the other way…that’s all I know”
That from a western based pro-scout. Is it just reaction to Boro’s insertion in the line-up, or a legitimate rumour? Well, I have no idea, as this has only come from one place (but a well-informed one), but there has been a ton of talk about Vancouver needing more toughness, and to get it in the form of a steady defenceman…makes sense for them. As for Ottawa, well, they’re OK on defence, with Lee and *maybe* Boro…seems a pretty big gamble for Ottawa if they have real post season aspirations, you simply cannot have to many defencemen. Spoke to a few people on this (none had heard it)…they all thought it made sense if the Sens plan on getting Boro some NHL/post-season experience.
Is Boro the “new” Rundblad, albeit an entirely different player, ready to skate a regular shift in the NHL? Is Carks expendable (he has only 3 fighting majors this season)?
Or is this total BS?
Roy, Ruutu, or Brassard? All three have been linked to trade rumours with Ottawa, and all three have legitimate top 6 ability.
Who would you rather, and what would you be willing to move in return?
GN
January 23, 2012 at 3:15 pm
I’d love to have Brassard. Or even Ruutu.
As for what goes back the other way, I don’t know. Da Costa, and a mid round pick? Is Regin even an option anymore? I wouldn’t be willing to give up Zbad or a roster guy like Foligno or ZSmith… I think it would mess with the team chemistry too much.
I just don’t knwo if a package like that would get it done.
January 23, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Carkner for Raymond in a heartbeat. I’d imagine that a pick or prospect would probably be going to Vancouver as well. This just shores up Ottawa on the top six and gives them a scorer with wheels. Speed and youth are everything right now for Ottawa, and Raymond could be a genuine piece now and in the future. I can just see him on Spezza’s wing…
In answer to which of the three amigos I would trade for, I think if you’re looking for scoring and largest potential, I think you have to go for Roy. Excellent special units play and speed to burn: the only dilemma would be whether to play him at centre or wing. I like him on Spezza’s wing, but I can also see him being the 2LC and Turris possibly taking a wing position…Now the cost I would predict to be a little bit higher for Roy, as opposed to Brassard or Ruutu, in the range of 2nd to 1st round pick plus prospect, roster player.
I think if you’re looking for a safe bet, alternatively, Tuomo Ruutu would be positive addition. He’s good, gritty, two way guy who could work the front of the net . He would be excellent as a shut down guy on the third line; very intimidating and tough SOBs to play against. Can you imagine lining up against Neil, Smith, and Ruutu…scary
January 23, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Why on earth would anyone contemplate moving Turris from the 2C position? He’s not even close to mid-season form yet and is looking to be the best 2C the Sens have ever had. The Sens are set at C for the foreseeable future. Whoever comes in will be a young natural winger, who can play in the top 6. Of the 3 mantioned, Brassard fits that bill.
January 24, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Carkner for Raymond? That is total BS. For a second, consider being in the shoes of the Canucks- how is your young, albeit inconsistent, scoring winger anything you would trade in a deal for a veteran 5/6 guy who broke into the league two years ago? Please. He’ll be a UFA, and if Ottawa doesn’t retain him, they’d go get him. But they wouldn’t give up Mason Raymond, or anyone of his skill or potential. Ever.
January 26, 2012 at 11:59 am
Please don’t take the following rant personally, it is primarily directed at your source.
The 7th best defensive team is going to punch a hole in their top 9 for the #6 defensemen on the 27th best defensive team?
I don’t know who you got that rumor from, but whoever they are clearly think Vancouver’s #8 spot on the defensive depth chart is pretty weak. Andrew Alberts is a tough, physical specimen in the mold of Carkner. If Carkner was added, chances are he wouldn’t play. I have no idea who your source is, but you may want to look into his/her specific connection to either team, because that sounds distinctly made up.
I know your just posting what you hear, but in your heart of hearts, you cannot possibly believe that is a possibility. The idea that either side has discussed it I am sure the idea of being able to unload a depth defensemen/enforcer for a youngish top 9 speedster capable of 25 goals has never even crossed Murray’s mind. And to be fair, has it really crossed yours? When was the last time a team traded a young, skilled guy for a defensemen they essentially already have, and still don’t play?
I wish Gillies were that dumb. I could deal with a Komisarek for Kesler trade…
January 26, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Oops.
“The idea that either side has discussed it is nuts.”
January 31, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Well, like you said just passing it along. As for Komi for Kesler…lol, Komi can barely hold his own in TO, for a brutal contract…he has negative value on the trade market.
GN
February 15, 2012 at 7:51 pm
The sens should take Brian Lee behind the shed.